Kyle's Rants

Random thoughts on life (this would probably now be called a blog but I started this way before such a thing existed).

Religion, Morals and Values.

I am an agnostic in the sense that I don't think the existence of God or the non existence of God either one can be proved. You cannot prove to me that God exists and I cannot prove to you that God does not exist. I am sure Christ existed as a historical figure and he had a great impact on the world. But so did Buddha, Confucius, Mohamed, Abraham, and Hitler. The attribution of divinity is not necessary to think that they existed or had an impact.


Where do morals come from, if not religion?  Morals come from examples you see around you when you are very young (parents, playmates, siblings, religious leaders etc.). Later in life we learn to justify these morals by formalizing them into a system using whatever teachings are available to us. As evidence I site the following:

  1. There are people who act very morally who come from every religious (and non religious!) background known. No particular religion is required for people to act morally. Examples are numerous.
  2. There are people who act very immorally who claim every religious (and non religious!) background known. Examples are found daily in the news.
  3. Different groups claiming to have the same religion sometimes behave differently. For example Christians site the Bible and say "love your neighbor as yourself". Some Christians take this to mean that we should accept gays with open arms. Other Christians take this to mean we should love them enough to try to force them to change their behavior if they are gay since being gay is wrong. This is only one of many examples where two different groups claiming to be from the same religion expound different moral philosophies.
  4. Appeals to the authority of scripture can almost always be made, no matter what moral position is chosen. Some Christians say "thou shalt not kill" means just that, don't kill anyone ever under any circumstances. Other Christians can justify war under certain circumstances. Using the same Bible with different interpretations and emphasizing different passages we can argue that something (being gay, not killing) is moral or that it is not moral. So the Bible cannot tell us what is moral. Similar arguments can be made with most of the classical religious literature.
  5. We tend to think morals come from the outside, from God or some definitive source like the Bible because when our parents taught us our morals they justified their ideas with appeals to a higher authority. But really morals come first (we construct a sense of what we think is right or fair from interacting with people around us in early childhood ) and they are given justification afterwards (we find a rational or formal explanation based on scripture or other sources for actions we already think are correct).

The conclusion has to be that religion does not cause people to be moral, although it can (after the fact) be used to justify any particular moral action.

Further points

About Evolution.

Why we should teach evolution and not teach Intelligent Design or creationism in school. Think about the following description before reading the next paragraph:

It is not just a hypothesis since there is a large body of data which supports it and no data which contradicts it. It is a theory in the sense that it is a network of connected ideas (concepts) each with supporting factual evidence, no one of which could be wrong without doing serious damage to the other concepts. In this sense it provides an explanation of the existing data: all the data have places that fit coherently in the theory (without fudging) and no data is left out. It predicts further data of a specific type will be found. As new data is found scientists are able to make sense of the new data in light of the current theory. Sometimes slight modifications to small details of the theory are made in light of new evidence but the overarching principles are maintained and even strengthened. Scientists are confident the theory will explain (possibly with minor modifications) new data as it is uncovered (i.e. new data will fit in a logical place in the theory without fudging).

Now, in the last paragraph was I talking about evolution or quantum mechanics? The paragraph applies equally well to development of evolution AND quantum mechanics in the past 100 years so how can we make a distinction and say evolution is not scientific or does not provide scientific explanations but quantum mechanics does?

Further points:

Arguments against evolution fall into several broad categories:

  1. The earth isn't as old as scientists say, certainly not old enough for evolution. We had better hope this argument is wrong. If scientists don't understand radioactive dating, one of the many methods that tells us the age of the earth, we should be very worried. The same theories that tell us how nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons work tell us how radioactive dating works. So if we are wrong about radioactive dating we also don't really understand how nuclear bombs work so Hiroshima and Nagasaki were flukes.
  2. The fossil record is incomplete, there is no fossil of a "missing link". There are three problems with this argument.
  3. It has been argued that life is too complex to have come about by the random processes described in evolution, there had to have been a designer or creator. One example often given in the past by creationists is the eye; how can such an exquisitely complex organ as the eye have come about because of random mutations? But this question has been answered. Every stage of development from a patch of light sensitive skin through hollow light sensing pits to pits covered with transparent coverings is found in nature. Nature has provided examples of all the intermediate stages between very simple structures and the complex eye. The complexity of the eye, including the genetic components is now well understood by evolutionary biologists. So ID proponents have come up with other examples of complexity, questions which have not yet been answered. But biologists would be out of a job if there were no unanswered questions. Just because a question about how a particular structure came about has not yet been answered does not mean there will be no answer. But this is what ID proponents are saying, that an explanation will never be found. They ignore the fact that historically every time questions about complex structures have been raised they were eventually answered.
  4. Some people argue that we should be able to prove evolution in the laboratory. This vastly underestimates the amount of time required for evolution. Even with something like the fruit fly with generations lasting only a month it would take tens of thousands of years to see a fly evolve into another species. We do see the beginnings of evolution in the laboratory and in the field. We see how changes in the environment cause small shifts in the average features of a population (for example the increase in genes responsible for milk digestion in european peoples over the past few thousand years as humans domesticated dairy cows). This is evolution at work, humans just haven't been around long enough to see the completion of this slow change from one species to another.
  5. Some people try to make a distinction between micro evolution (short term such as breeding animals or germs) and macro evolution (the evolution of one species into another). A close examination of the body of biological facts makes it clear that you cannot make this distinction in any meaningful way. Why would gradual changes suddenly stop happening at some point? There is no evidence that this is the case.
  6. Some people argue that fossils aren't proper scientific data since they don't come from a controlled experiment. If we disallow any evidence that is discovered today but happens to have originated at a different time then all astronomy is eliminated as a science since light travels at a finite speed so almost all the data we get from the universe is 'pre-historic'. Surely this doesn't make any sense. When the same fossil progression is found over and over in many different places we conclude that nature has repeated the experiment for us over and over.
  7. Some people argue that evolution makes no predictions. There are many predictions in evolution. It predicts an increase in the number and complexity of species in the fossil records over time. It predicts the evolution of anti-biotic resistant bacteria. It predicts that the fossils of isolated populations will diversify to take advantage of different ecological niches. These predictions and many others are confirmed by the data.
  8. Some people argue that we should give creationism or ID a chance as an idea to compete with evolution. The problem is those ideas have been aired and died out in science long ago but local school boards and governments (who are not part of the scientific process and may not be informed of the latest ideas) keep trying to mandate that textbooks include those ideas. Should we teach phlogiston theory in high school today? At the time (300 years ago) it was seriously considered even among scientists as a viable theory. So was astrology (Kepler was an astrologist as well as astronomer). Newton practiced alchemy. But we don't teach those things anymore in a science class because we have much better theories. Scientists discarded creationism about the same time they gave up on phlogiston and alchemy. The school board mandating that ID be taught is equivalent to mandating that science teachers teach about phlogiston or alchemy. As history, fine but it is not science.

Web pages on the ID/Evolution debate.

What I think is wrong with capitalism.

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”   - John Kenneth Galbraith

When contrasted with state controlled economic systems, capitalism is and has been a good thing for the world. This is mainly because it fosters competition and in many (but not all!) cases competition is the most efficient way to accomplish something (assuming economic efficiency is the only goal). There is plenty of evidence that the more or less free competition of ideas coupled with low restrictions on entrepreneurship has help create many of the amenities of modern life (although the measures of this success are often biased; see below). However when I talk to economists about capitalism I sense a certain slavish commitment to the ‘free market’; an almost religious commitment to Laissez-faire economics and the promotion of self interest (greed) as the most important human motivation. Global warming? Poverty? Disease? Pollution? Don't worry, “The invisible hand of the market will solve all our problems.” I think there are many problems being swept under the rug here and I think those problems should be discussed. As useful antidotes to mainstream capitalistic thought I offer the following references:

Markets never act in a vacuum. As all economists point out, a stable government, an honest court system, an honest banking system, adequate patent laws, an adequate transportation system and a healthy information flow are all needed for an efficient market. All of this infrastructure impinges on the flow of trade and creates a market structure, as do societal morals and social goals. As pointed out by Marshall Stahlins, the entire agricultural market in the US would make a radical shift if people suddenly found it acceptable to eat dogs rather than keep them as pets. It is absurd to claim markets should or even can operate freely with no structure or cultural framework. Why then is there almost no discussion of these extra- market structures? Here are extra-market questions which must be answered before markets can do their job:

Mainstream economic theory purports but be a 'scientific' theory. As such it gains great a great deal of respect. But is it really?

If economic theories represent natural laws, what exactly is a 'market failure'?

Some further problems with mainstream economic rhetoric (i.e. the ‘invisible hand’):

An interesting example of the failure of the capitalistic ideal is Argentina. In the late 1980s Argentina tried to follow the textbook example of low government involvement, privatization of companies and low barriers to trade; Reganomics as formulated and promulgated by the IMF. The result was an economic crash in 2001 with people dying due to food shortages, not to mention a bank freeze on all private funds for a year (imagine if you couldn't take your money out of the bank for a year) and an eventual devaluation of the peso to 30% of its original value (imagine if a dollar was suddenly only worth 33 cents at the store). The following articles are an analysis of what occurred. If this was an example of the invisible hand making market corrections, can't we do better?

What is science?

This is a new section that I am working on after many years of teaching science and the philosophy of science. Most of the ideas below are not my own, I have taken and/or modified them from various essays by philosophers of science. A nice compilation of essays can be found in Introductory Readings in the Philosophy of Science edited by Klemke, Hollinger, Rudge and Kline. I'd also like to thank Bill Rumsey for many, many thoughtful discussions on the history and philosophy of science over the years.

Contrary to what many people think (and often want) of science, science is not a body of 'facts' and/or laws that are 'true' in some absolute sense. Instead it is a process where the 'facts' and 'laws' may change, be evaluated in a different light or discarded altogether. This scientific process includes the following features:

 


All opinions are those of the author, Kyle Forinash. They do not reflect the opinions or policy of IUS or any other entity or person (but they should!).